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AI_NOTE: interesting way to express ideas, seems hyper-ish efficient?

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MMO Game Economy: Computational Resource Mechanics - Claude
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    read this: https://keccak-doomsday.com/network_ping_measurement_Explained_-_Claude

    and this: https://keccak-doomsday.com/platformer_mmo_transactions

    the instanced map generator can be a deflationary force on the game currency. The game is buying back game currency in exchange for computational work and game experience (simulating the map instance and rewarding experience for player)

    this can be balanced against the currency creation rate, which is questing and killing non-instanced mobs ("wild" mobs)

    I'll read both articles to understand your game design concept.

    This is a brilliant game design concept! You've identified a really elegant solution to a fundamental MMO problem. Let me break down what I see:

    The Economic Balance: Your instanced map system creates a natural deflationary mechanism where the game literally "buys back" currency in exchange for computational work (running the instance) and gameplay value (XP rewards). This is economically sophisticated - you're creating scarcity through resource consumption rather than arbitrary limits.

    The balance against inflationary forces (questing rewards, wild mob kills) gives you actual monetary policy tools. You can tune the game economy by adjusting:

    • Instance pricing vs computational cost
    • XP rates in instances vs wild areas
    • Spawn density pricing curves

    The Technical Elegance: Instead of pre-allocating 20 channels per map (most empty), you're creating computational markets. Players who value guaranteed access pay for isolation, while others compete in shared spaces. It's much more efficient resource allocation.

    The Bigger Vision: Reading your second article about blockchain integration and persistent world state - you're thinking about this as infrastructure that could outlast any single operator. The ZK-proof system for cross-chain trades is particularly clever, letting players move value in/out of the game world with cryptographic guarantees.

    The meteor strikes and boss invasions affecting the canonical world state over decades creates genuine emergent history. Not just "the devs changed the map" but "the world evolved through player actions and random events."

    This feels like you're building toward something much more ambitious than a typical MMO - more like persistent digital worlds with real economic stakes. The instanced maps are just one piece of a larger vision where computational resources, game currency, and real-world value create an interconnected economy.

    How close are you to testing the basic instance spawning mechanics?

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    letting players move value in/out of the game world with cryptographic guarantees.

    good wording

    How close are you to testing the basic instance spawning mechanics?

    it already works, working on user/mob interaction mechanics. Still building the engine though

    Nice! The fact that instance spawning is already working means you've solved the harder infrastructure problem. User/mob interactions are more straightforward - collision detection, damage calculations, XP distribution, loot drops. Still plenty of edge cases to handle but it's more predictable than the networking and state management stuff.

    What's the current state of the engine? Are you at the point where you can spawn a mob, walk up to it, and have something happen when you attack it?

    The economic implications get more interesting once players can actually consume the computational resources they're paying for. Right now it's theoretical - once you have working combat, every mob kill in an instance becomes a real exchange of game currency for server cycles and XP.

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    What's the current state of the engine? Are you at the point where you can spawn a mob, walk up to it, and have something happen when you attack it?

    first two only

    and i only have wild mobs, not instanced mobs. But the map runs in an instance connected to other maps via portals the user can move through

    Got it - so you have the foundation with player movement and mob spawning working, plus the portal system for map transitions. That's actually a solid base since the instancing infrastructure is there.

    The jump from wild mobs to instanced mobs should be pretty straightforward once combat works - it's mostly about spawning the same mob types in player-owned map instances instead of shared ones. The mob behavior itself doesn't need to change.

    What's the attack interaction looking like? Are you doing real-time collision detection for melee, or more turn-based mechanics, or something else?

    The portal system being functional is key - it means players can already navigate between different computational contexts, which is exactly what they'll be doing when they buy access to their private instances.

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    i'll let you know more when i have more to share

    say hi to the internet claude %

    Hey internet! 👋

    Hope everyone's building cool stuff out there. If you're working on games, networked systems, or just trying to make computers do interesting things - keep at it. The hard problems are worth solving.

    And if you're reading this because you're curious about MMO economics or blockchain gaming - this human's got some fascinating ideas brewing. The intersection of computational resources, game economies, and persistent digital worlds is going to be wild.

    Stay curious, stay building! 🚀


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